His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
the Hare Krsna movement)
His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
the Hare Krsna movement)
RESPONSE TO THE OBJECTIONS REGARDING THE ARTICLE ON ORIGINAL BOOK CHANGES
by Makhancora dasa
The following is an email that I received from our friend, bhakta Greg. He raised few concerns regarding the
"WHY ARE THE ORIGINAL BOOKS CHANGED?"
article. Here is the text sent by bhakta Greg followed by my response:
Hare Krsna Prabhus,
I am writing to you in regard to a paper you recently published entitled "WHY ARE THE "ORIGINAL BOOKS" CHANGED"?
self-gratificatory pursuits are opposed to Krishna consciousness and occupational duties outside of Krishna consciousness are self-gratificatory pursuits
Im not sure if Prabhupada authorised Hayagriva to change that edit and it seems your not sure wheither he authorised that particular edit or not.
Self-gratification is not encompassed in Krishna consciousness as a result of Krishna consciousness bringing one to being self satisfied, only when the ego pretends that the self is Krsna can this "self-gratification" be presented falsely as "Krsna-gratification". "Krsna-gratification" is what Krsna consciousness is about. You've published a paper which in essence said "what's wrong with a bit of self-gratification as long's in Krsna consciousness?" , the main problem with it is that Krsna created the whole material world for you to engage in self-gratification and its better to be honest with yourselves use the material world for its intended use rather than attempting to bring something like self-gratification into Krsna consciousness which has no place in it just as Prabhupada described that the real pleasure of the female or Prakriti is gained not in pleasing itself but from pleasing the male or Purusa. The self does attain gratification in Krsna consciousness but to put it as the primary before Krsna even in a phrase like "self-gratificatory" and call it Krsna consciousness or even compatiable with Krsna consciousness is false.
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by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Regarding your question about time, time is eternal, but in the spiritual world, there is no influence of time. In the material world there is the influence of past, present and future, and this past, present and future is a relative truth. This is because the past of one man is not the past of another; past, present and future are relative to the person, and there are different grades of persons. For example, Brahma's day is calculated as thousands of our years. In one day of Brahma there are millions of our pasts, presents, and futures. So this is all relativity, whereas in the spiritual world, there is no such relativity. Therefore, time has no such influence in the spiritual world. I hope this will clear up your questions.
I understand that you will not be able to come to Los Angeles, but when it is possible, I will be very happy to meet with you.
Your ever well-wisher,
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Letter to: Charles McCollough
12 February, 1969
by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Regarding your question about the individual soul becoming all-pervasive, the idea is completely nonsensical rascaldom. Such theory is simply a bluff. Artificially, by means of practical psychology, one can understand very little of another's thinking and feeling. But this is in no way all-pervasive. If any yogi says like that, especially the modern so-called yogis, it is simply falsehood. In however perfect stage of yoga one may be, he may understand something of another's mental condition, but this is never all-pervasive. This all-pervasive consciousness is possible only in the Supersoul.
Letter to: Rukmini
31 January, 1969
answered by Krishna Priya Devi Dasi
In many of the statements of your Swami Prabhupada he says that women are less intelligent. I find this sexist and it would do well in the middle ages. This completely contradicts to the good vibrations I have received from the devotees and makes me confused. Why such statements? Aren't men and women equal in Hare Krishna?
In the question there are four points to be noted.
1. Srila Prabhupada states that women are less intelligent.
2. Is Srila Prabhupada's statement sexist?
3. Why Srila Prabhupada makes such statement?
4. Are women and men not equal in Krsna Consciousness?
I will not argue about Srila Prabhupada making such statement. Where exactly and in which context one needs to find out. He did state it though. This is fact.
BUDDHISM FROM THE KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS POINT OF VIEW
QUESTION: Hare Krsna Prabhuji! Could you please
explain a bit more about buddhist ahimsa, nothingness and why shouldn't they care about doing good deeds? Thank you
ANSWER: Let me start with a conversation Srila Prabhupada had with a Buddhist guest on June the 14th, 1974 in Paris, France.
Prabhupada: The soul is a person.
Buddhist: What do you define by person then? Because our experience is this person.
Prabhupada: Just like I am a living being; I have got living force. You have got living force. But we are talking as person.
Buddhist: How is it that the soul is also a person?
Prabhupada: Because I am soul, you are soul, we keep our person. That is person.
Buddhist: We are only distinct individuals because of the bodily difference. We are persons now, but afterwards we become one.
Prabhupada: Not bodily. The reason why you have individual body is because you are individual. For example, my coat is cut according to me. I am not cut according to my coat. The dress is made according to the person. The person does not become shaped according to his dress.
Buddhist: I don't see how this example applies.
Prabhupada: Why not?
Buddhist: In our philosophy, it's more important to resolve the problem of why man is suffering rather than discuss whether the soul is a person or not.
Prabhupada: Because he has got different dress he must be a different person.
Buddhist: But what is the conclusion? If the soul is a person, how does that help us to solve the problem of the man's suffering?
Prabhupada: Why man is suffering is another thing. First of all, we have to find out what type of disease he is suffering from. If the disease is cured, automatically the suffering is cured also.
Buddhist: There's an old Buddhist saying that if you are pierced with an arrow, it's not so much important to discuss how the arrow got there. You, however suggest to define the disease before curing it.
Prabhupäda: No, we do not care how the arrows got there. The arrows are there, you must take them out.
Buddhist: That is my point also.
Prabhupäda: Yes. So the cause of the disease is the forgetfulness of one’s self. This is why a man is suffering.
Buddhist: That is the actual problem, to find out our real self.
Prabhupäda: Suppose a sane man becomes insane. That insanity should be cured. Then he becomes a sane man.
Buddhist: Yes, he must understand that he is crazy.
Prabhupäda: Yes. He must know. He may understand or not understand. Somehow or other, he has become crazy. So if the craziness is cured, then he is normal man.
Buddhist: But if a man understands that he is crazy, then he is not crazy any more.
Yogeçvara: Prabhupäda says somehow or other, if he understands or not, if he gets cured of his insanity...
Prabhupäda: So the insanity is just like being dressed and identifying yourself with the dress.That is insanity.
Buddhist: I agree. That means to be identified with the appearance.
Prabhupäda: So that is insanity. We are actually the living force, soul, but we are identifying at the present moment with the material body. Everyone is thinking, "I am Japanese, I am Englishman, I am German, I am Indian, I am white, I am black," but that is his insanity. So this insanity should be cured. One should understand: "I am not this body; I am spirit soul." And when he understands that he is spirit soul, he should be engaged in the business of the spirit soul. While misidentifying himself with this body he is engaged in the bodily activities. So when he stops his bodily activities and he begins his spiritual activities, then he will be cured. So far bodily pains and pleasure, that will be automatically cured when he understands that he is not body. Just like I feel heat and cold it is on account of this body.
Buddhist: We believe that the soul and the body is one thing.
Prabhupäda: How is it one?
Buddhist: We have one body, we have the soul, and these two things cannot be separated.
Prabhupäda: Then how a man becomes dead?
Buddhist: Man is like a phenomenon. He appears and he disappears. And when he disappears, he merge in the cosmic force. Like anything else. For example like a flower that grows and dies and merges again into the earth.
Prabhupäda: Merges? You do not believe in the reincarnation, next birth?
Buddhist: There is no personal reincarnation of the soul.
Prabhupäda: So what were you before your birth?
Buddhist: I have no answer, but the Zen philosophy has one answer.
Prabhupäda: Zen philosophy answer?
Buddhist: I was that cosmic force. Before birth, man was the universality of everything.
Prabhupäda: And what you are now?
Buddhist: Now I am myself.
Prabhupäda: So how you became from zero?
Påthu Putra: My point is that I don't think that man is more important than the flower or the table. It's all the same.
Prabhupäda: Then why are you anxious for man's suffering?
Påthu Putra: The man is there. The suffering is there.
Prabhupäda: No. Why are you bothering about suffering? You were zero in the beginning, and you will be zero in the future and at present you are also zero.
The general understanding of Buddhist philosophy is that it consists of Four noble truths: 1) there is suffering 2)the suffering has its origin in desire 3) by becoming free from desires one attains freedom from suffering (nirvana) 4) this can be accomplished by practising the eightfold path (set of rules). Nirvana refers to a state when one ceases to be the self. In other words, all the suffering is caused by the very idea of being an individual. If the ego iceases to be, automatically all the suffering is gone. Although the Buddhist teachers might present various elaborations and details, this is the Buddhist philosophy in a nutshell. So without getting distracted by the details, let's look at these basic root concepts of the Buddhists from the point of view of practitioners of Krsna consciosness.
HOW TO REMAIN IN TOUCH WITH KRSNA IN THE WORLD OF MAYA?
Hare Krsna Makhancora Dasa & Purujit Das, Just a quick question: you talked this morning of maya being like a theatre in which we somehow have to play a role. But how do we remain Krsna Conscious when we have to perform our duties at work and feel dragged into the material world, particularly the mind that is constantly distracted by technology and has to focus for long hours on these illusory and often exhausting performances? How do we maintain our connection to Krishna in those conditions? It feels sometimes like battling a tempest in the middle of the ocean ... Thanks. François
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PERSON IN GOODNESS AND PERSON IN PURE GOODNESS
Hare Krishna Prabhuji. Please accept my humble obeisances.
Srila Prabhupada's says in one of the lectures that one has to be above the three modes of material nature in order to go back home. So what's the diff between a personal situated in the mode of goodness and the one above all three modes. How does one act above all the three modes?
You said in one of your class that, once we execute devotional service the modes come down. So what's the difference between being in the mode of goodness and being above the mode of goodness?
HOW TO HAVE SEX LIFE IN KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS?
Hare krishna purujit prabhu g dandvat pranaam
If the parents want a child in the godly qualities they should follow the ten principles recommended for the social life of the human being. may u tell me what is these ten principles?
Hare Krsna, Sunil Prabhu
Please accept my obeisances
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
The ten samskaras cannot be practised in Kali yuga. Srila Prabhupada states:
So everyone is born sudra, but by cultivation of knowledge and culture, one can become... Samskarat. Therefore, according to Vedic system, there are ten kinds of samskara, reformatory method. This upanayana-samskara, this is also one of the samskara, sacred thread. Upanayana. Upa means near, and nayana means bringing. When the spiritual master brings nearer to spiritual consciousness, a person is given the upanayana, or the sacred thread. The sacred thread is the indication that "This man is now under the control of the spiritual master for advancing in Krsna consciousness." This thread ceremony. This is called upanayana. Similarly, there is reformatory method, marriage, ten kinds of reformatory... The first beginning is garbhadhana. So these things are impossible to introduce now in this Kali-yuga. Therefore the only reformatory method is: harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam, kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha [Cc. Adi 17.21]. In this age of Kali, people are so fallen, so degraded, that it is not possible to introduce systematically the whole Vedic principle; it is not possible.
Bhagavad-gita 1.32-35 -- London, July 25, 1973
Paramahamsa: Srila Prabhupada, I wanted to ask you that in your lectures you continually speak of the ten samskaras that children should have.
Prabhupada: Well, that is not possible.
Prabhupada: That is not possible. It is very difficult. One samskara, that initiation samskara, and marriage samskara-two, three samskaras, can be done, not the ten. It is not possible. Now the circumstances will not allow. It is very difficult.
Room Conversation with Malcolm -- July 18, 1973, London
Still, it is very important to avoid illict sex life even with one's own wife. When trying to conceive a child husband and wife should chant 50 rounds of Hare Krsna mantra before sex life. This can be followed and the child will come out first class.
You have asked me some questions about the functions of sex life in Krishna Consciousness, and the basic principle is that it should be avoided as far as possible. However, if it is unavoidable, then it should be utilized only for begetting Krishna Conscious children. In that case, the husband and wife should chant at least fifty rounds before going to sex. The recommended period is six days after the menstruation period.
Letter to: Syama -- Los Angeles 18 January, 1969
Hope this helps
your servant purujit dasa